
This Dave Lombardo interview was recorded six days after The Pulse Of Atoms, his first album with dark-ambient pioneer Lustmord, and one day after Reign In Blood turned forty, and it covers both ends of that range: the record he says he ‘wasn’t ready for’ twenty years ago, and the one that still makes his palms sweat.
In between, on The Loaded Radio Podcast with Scott Penfold, he explains why he turned down William Shatner’s album before saying yes, what happened backstage at Download 2004 when Metallica needed a drummer in a matter of hours, what Mike Patton taught him, and what’s coming from Dead Cross. The full episode is on the player below.
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The Lustmord Record: ‘I Wasn’t Ready For It’ Twenty Years Ago
The Pulse Of Atoms, credited to Lustmord Lombardo, came out October 2 on Ipecac Recordings, seven tracks of dark ambient built on drums that, in Lombardo’s words, ‘almost take their time.’
He pushes back gently on the idea that it’s a record without rhythm. ‘There is a groove under there, but it’s very sparse. It almost takes its time. It’s very laid back. It almost creates more of an image rather than just a barrage of noise coming at you.’ That’s the point of it for him: ‘It almost paints an image in your mind, or whatever that is, is up to the listener and how he translates it.’ He calls himself ‘very space oriented’ and says he sees pictures when he listens.
On Lustmord’s famous low end, the line from the album announcement was that he ‘rattles the plaster off of venues.’ Lombardo stands by it: ‘There are stories of his performances where plaster has come off the walls. He has a very unique, keen ear for frequencies and sounds. You could increase your stereo volume and it not be painful. It doesn’t give off this shrill. The sound is almost encompassing. It feels good. It’s like a blanket.’
The two met backstage at a Fantômas show, introduced by Buzz Osborne, and it took nearly twenty years to make a record together. Lombardo’s explanation is about himself, not the schedule: ‘I think I had to go through some musical growth as well. Maybe twenty years ago I wasn’t ready for it.’ The ambient and percussion experiments on his 2023 solo album, Rites Of Percussion, were the bridge. ‘I think the opportunity came at the right time.’ He’s one of the great metal drummers who’s never stopped learning, and this is what that looks like at 61.
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William Shatner Called. Lombardo Said No. Then He Said Yes.
Lombardo is one of the guest drummers on 95-year-old William Shatner’s metal album for Cleopatra Records, alongside Rob Halford, Brian May and Tony Iommi, but his first answer was a pass.
‘At the time when I first got the call from the record company, I declined. I had other things going on. And then I was able to manage my schedule a little bit, and I called them back and I said, hey, I’ll do it.’ The session went well and he’s as curious as anyone about the result: ‘I can’t wait to hear the final product. I don’t think anybody has.’
Asked whether Shatner’s admission that he knows nothing about heavy metal is a handicap or exactly how the best singers work, Lombardo picks the second. ‘I think that is the best way. Just going at it. Just fearless. Accepting what kind of sound comes out of you, how you sing, your approach to the music. That confidence and that fearlessness, I think, is the right way to approach something like this.’
He compares it to his improvised gigs with John Zorn and John Medeski: ‘We look at each other before one of our improvisation gigs and say, what do you want to do? You start, or Medeski starts, Zorn starts, and then we’ll follow their lead. But you have to be confident, fearless, open-minded, and have fun while you’re doing it.’
Would he tour behind Shatner if asked? ‘Yeah, I think it’ll be fun.’ For now the live chair belongs to Fred Aching, who played Shatner’s first metal show in Chicago in September: ‘Fred is doing a great job. He’s killing it out there, from what I saw.’
Download 2004: Learning Metallica Songs ‘In A Matter Of Hours’
When Lars Ulrich was hospitalised before Metallica’s Download Festival headline set in June 2004, Lombardo played ‘Battery’ and ‘The Four Horsemen’ and Joey Jordison handled most of the rest.
His first concern, he says, was Lars’s health; his second was not overreaching. ‘There were only certain songs that I was familiar with. I didn’t want to venture off too much into what I didn’t know, because I had a short period of time. It was like a matter of hours before they hit the stage. So I stayed with the songs that I knew.’ Jordison ‘was able to do the bulk of the songs, obviously, because he was in a Metallica cover band when he was a kid.’
The part he remembers fondly is the rehearsal. ‘We got to jam in these little cubicles that they had backstage. They had a kit and some instruments there, and we went over the songs, and that was a lot of fun. That was surreal.’
Surreal because of the history: ‘We all kind of grew up together. Not in the same city, but we were watching and listening to what each other were doing.’ He puts Slayer’s first support slot for Metallica at ‘1982 or ’83,’ with Ron McGovney on bass and Dave Mustaine on guitar, the lineup before Cliff Burton, and says seeing how many people enjoyed the footage of that era is ‘really funny.’ Twenty-one years later he was covering for Lars in front of 60,000 people.
Reign In Blood At 40: ‘If I Go Into Cardiac Arrest, Play Angel Of Death’
Reign In Blood turned forty on October 7, 2026, the day before this interview, and Lombardo says listening to it still triggers the same adrenaline as playing it.
‘It still gives me the chills when I listen to that album. The palms of your hands get sweaty, your heart rate increases, and you’re in the moment. I performed those songs so many times in my life on stage, and that adrenaline, just thinking about it, when I listen to those songs, it triggers that adrenaline. I get charged. If I go into cardiac arrest, play “Angel Of Death” or “Raining Blood” or something. I’ll just pop up, like, hey, what’s going on?’
He’s specific about why those records sound the way they do and why a lot of modern thrash doesn’t. ‘Since computer software, music recording software, a lot of the music has turned very sterile. You kind of miss that push and pull. Those albums were almost restless. Very aggressive. You could hear it in the recording.’
The sessions were run on dares: ‘We would look at each other and say, all right, let’s go. Let’s nail this one. Let’s get this song faster. Play it just a little faster. Okay, let’s go. Count four and the band just comes in. Just angst and adrenaline.’ Where Reign In Blood sits in the catalogue isn’t a debate he needs to have; he was there.
On the early days generally: ‘At that time you didn’t know what you were doing, man. We just followed our gut. The music we were listening to, the city we were all living in, that all influenced us. If our parents didn’t buy the houses that we were living in at the time, we wouldn’t have met.’ And on seeing photos of himself at twenty every day: ‘Time flies. That’s all I could say. You enjoy what you’re doing now and you keep going.’

Testament, Mr. Bungle And What Mike Patton Taught Him
Lombardo’s 2022 return to Testament lasted a year because of commitments to Mr. Bungle; he says he was ‘happy to bail them out’ and it ‘was a lot of fun.’
‘I had released a couple records with Mr. Bungle, a live record and the studio record, and I had dates that I was committed to, and we just couldn’t work things out. But we did it for that one year.’ Was it a homecoming? ‘Yeah, it was. It was great to hang out with Eric and Chuck and Di Giorgio.’ He and Alex Skolnick, who wasn’t in Testament when Lombardo played on The Gathering in 1999, bond over jazz and trade bands; both are fans of Imperial Triumphant, whose drummer Kenny Grohowski ‘comes from the John Zorn world’ and ‘understands that language.’
On Mike Patton, the relationship goes back to Fantômas and runs both ways. ‘He’s told me a lot of stories that they were big Slayer fans, and they would air-drum to those records when they were kids. And likewise, Slayer used to love Mr. Bungle. The first album, we would play that constantly in the vans in the early days.’ Jeff Hanneman, he says, ‘was a big Faith No More fan. He loved that Epic record.’
Musically: ‘I feed off of his vocal inflections. I understand where he’s going. I know his rhythms and he knows mine.’ And the lesson: ‘He basically taught me how to be fearless, and to create art, create music, no matter what it is. Just believe in it, record it, and put it out.’
Playing The Raging Wrath Of The Easter Bunny, the 1986 demo Bungle re-recorded in 2020, he says the teenagers who wrote it ‘played pretty well at that time. I can tell their influences. I can tell who they liked: Slayer, Exodus. The list goes on.’
Misfits, Suicidal Tendencies, And The Call From An Unknown Number
There’s no Misfits activity planned, but Lombardo says ‘everything’s good’ and he hopes 2027 brings shows; his three albums with Suicidal Tendencies, he says, each have ‘this classic vibe.’
On the Misfits: ‘No talk. Everything’s good. They just haven’t booked any shows. I hope in 2027 they decide to do something. I’m anxious to jam with Jerry Only. I love that dude, man. Such a great guy and a great bass player.’ The original call came through Glenn Danzig’s assistant: ‘Expect his call, it’s coming from an unknown number. So he gives me a call. He said, hey, we got some plans of putting the Misfits back together. Jerry and I have mended our grievances. We’re looking to do some arenas, and I want you to be my drummer.’ Lombardo’s answer: ‘I would not say, let me think about it, Glenn.’
On Suicidal Tendencies and Mike Muir: ‘He’s an amazing songwriter, and he writes songs that resonate with this positivity, this fun, get out there and have a good time kind of music. I recorded three albums with him, and all three of them have this classic vibe.’
The best story is from his first rehearsal, playing ‘I Shot Reagan’ note for note: ‘I went into the hi-hat section and I played it pretty much verbatim to the original. And in the middle of the song he interrupted the song, came up and gave me a big hug, because he was so happy that I played it the right way. That music is in my bloodstream.’ Suicidal’s drum chair has been a rite of passage for a long time; he treated it that way.
On Hanneman, briefly and warmly: ‘He was a great guy, funny, amazing songwriter. He was a trailblazer, man. Self-taught, and created some of the most amazing music of our genre.’
Dead Cross, Satanic Planet, Venamoris And A Soundtrack He Can’t Name
Dead Cross have ‘something that will be released within maybe the next six months,’ and possible touring next year; Satanic Planet’s Dead Deities is out October 30 on Relapse; Venamoris, his project with his wife Paula, release their fifth holiday song by December 1.
Dead Cross first, because it’s the one people ask about: ‘There is something that will be released within maybe the next six months. But I can’t talk about it. We might do some touring next year. I’m not sure. But I know there’s definitely something new coming out next year.’ It would be the first new Dead Cross material since II in 2022, with Patton, Justin Pearson and Michael Crain.
Pearson is also the link to Satanic Planet, the project with The Satanic Temple co-founder Lucien Greaves and Luke Henshaw. Lombardo produced and co-wrote the 2022 debut; this time, with Bungle and Lustmord on his plate, ‘I really couldn’t give it the time that I really wanted to, so I don’t think I have producing credits on this one. But it’s a great record, great music, and great guys too.’ Dead Deities arrives October 30 on Relapse.
Then the household. Venamoris, with Paula Lombardo on vocals, has put out a holiday song every year for five years; while this interview was being recorded she was in the basement tracking this year’s. ‘It’s not your typical. It’s a little moodier, but it does reflect on the winter season. Hopefully we’re going to have that out by December 1st.’ Would twenty-year-old Dave have been shocked? ‘Yes, I would. He’d be like, what? He’d throw me down the stairs.’
Venamoris also cut the Ramones’ ‘I Want You Around’ for a Ramones tribute, with Apocalyptica’s Perttu Kivilaakso on cello, which is how Lombardo ended up on Apocalyptica’s ‘Blackened’: ‘He said, okay, Dave, since I’m going to do this favour for you, can you do me a favour? I don’t even need to ask you twice.’ And there’s a song for a film soundtrack he can’t name: ‘That’s all I could say.’
His own summary of why he says yes to all of it: ‘They’re not only fun to do, but you do it for friends. We see each other periodically on this music road that we’re on, and we run into each other in the most random places. It’s camaraderie and friendship.’ Metal has enough feuds. This is the other thing.
Listen To The Full Episode
The conversation runs well past what’s quoted here, including more on Zorn and Medeski, the Shatner session, and the early-80s Los Angeles scene. It’s on the player above and wherever you get podcasts, and if you missed it, last week’s episode with Type O Negative’s Kenny Hickey is the right one to pair it with: two men who built the heavy half of the 80s and are still making records nobody saw coming.
TL;DR
- Dave Lombardo joins The Loaded Radio Podcast six days after The Pulse Of Atoms (Lustmord Lombardo, Ipecac, October 2) and a day after Reign In Blood’s 40th anniversary.
- On Lustmord: ‘Twenty years ago I wasn’t ready for it.’ On Reign In Blood: ‘If I go into cardiac arrest, play Angel Of Death.’
- He turned down William Shatner’s metal album before calling back to say yes; he’s open to touring it if asked.
- Download 2004: he learned Metallica songs ‘in a matter of hours’ in a backstage cubicle and played the ones he knew while Joey Jordison took the bulk.
- Dead Cross have new material coming ‘within maybe the next six months’; Satanic Planet’s Dead Deities is out October 30; Venamoris’s fifth holiday song lands by December 1; no Misfits shows booked but ‘everything’s good.’
FAQ
What is Dave Lombardo’s new album with Lustmord?
The Pulse Of Atoms, credited to Lustmord Lombardo, was released October 2, 2026 on Ipecac Recordings. It’s a seven-track dark-ambient album built on Lombardo’s drums and Lustmord’s low-frequency sound design. The two met backstage at a Fantômas show, introduced by Buzz Osborne, nearly twenty years before making it.
Is Dave Lombardo on William Shatner’s metal album?
Yes. Lombardo is one of the guest drummers on the 95-year-old’s forthcoming metal album for Cleopatra Records, alongside Rob Halford, Brian May and Tony Iommi. He told The Loaded Radio Podcast he initially declined the invitation because of his schedule, then called back and accepted. The album’s release date hasn’t been announced.
Did Dave Lombardo play with Metallica at Download 2004?
Yes. When Lars Ulrich was hospitalised before Metallica’s Download Festival headline set in June 2004, Lombardo played ‘Battery’ and ‘The Four Horsemen’ and Slipknot’s Joey Jordison played most of the remaining set. Lombardo says he learned the songs in a matter of hours in a backstage rehearsal space.
Is Dead Cross releasing new music?
Lombardo says something from Dead Cross ‘will be released within maybe the next six months,’ with possible touring in 2027, but he can’t give details. It would be the band’s first new material since Dead Cross II in 2022.
Are the Misfits playing in 2027?
Nothing is booked. Lombardo says ‘everything’s good’ within the reunion lineup, no shows have been scheduled, and he hopes the band decides to play in 2027.
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