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  • Serj Tankian Says John Dolmayan’s Political Views May Have Shifted, Believing He, Like Many Others, Is Tired Of The Current President

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    Serj Tankian has addressed the long-running political divide between himself and System Of A Down drummer John Dolmayan in a new interview with Rolling Stone Italy, and suggested his bandmate’s position may have softened. Tankian declined to speak on Dolmayan’s behalf, but said the past tense is now the accurate one when describing his support, adding that he believes Dolmayan grew tired of it as many others did.

    Tankian also revealed that before any of it, Dolmayan voted for Barack Obama. The two men are brothers-in-law — Dolmayan is married to Diana Dolmayan, sister of Tankian’s wife Angela — and Tankian said thirty years of shared work, a shared Armenian heritage and two families raising cousins together have carried more weight than the disagreement. System Of A Down are confirmed for a 2027 Australian and New Zealand tour with Faith No More.

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    For about six years, System Of A Down were the go-to example whenever anyone wanted to talk about politics splitting a band.

    Serj Tankian: lifelong activist, outspoken, left-leaning, the voice on some of the most politically charged records in mainstream rock history. John Dolmayan: publicly, vocally, unmistakably on the other side.

    And they’re family. That’s the part that made it genuinely difficult rather than just awkward.

    Now Tankian has spoken to Rolling Stone Italy, and what he said is more interesting than another round of the argument.

    What He Actually Said

    Asked by Rolling Stone Italy about System Of A Down being held up as an example of a band setting political differences aside, Tankian started by refusing to speak for his drummer, saying it wouldn’t be fair to characterize someone else’s views for them.

    Then he made the distinction that’s generating headlines.

    He said the past tense is the correct one — that Dolmayan was a supporter, and he can’t say for certain that he still is. His own read is that Dolmayan grew tired of it, the way a lot of people have.

    That’s carefully worded, and deliberately so. Tankian isn’t announcing a conversion on his brother-in-law’s behalf. He’s saying he doesn’t think the label applies the way it once did, while explicitly acknowledging that it’s not his to speak on. Dolmayan himself has not commented.

    Worth being precise about that, because plenty of headlines today will collapse it into something more definitive than what was said.

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    The Detail Everyone Else Is Skipping

    Here’s the part that actually supports Tankian’s argument, and most coverage is racing past it.

    Before any of this, Dolmayan voted for Barack Obama.

    Tankian said it plainly, and added that he doesn’t even know whether Dolmayan has ever said so publicly — but that it’s true. His point in raising it wasn’t to embarrass anyone. It was to make the case that people’s positions move over time, in both directions, and that treating anyone’s politics as a permanent fixed identity is a mistake.

    He extended it beyond his own family too, saying he knows a number of Armenians in Los Angeles who voted one way and have since changed their minds.

    Agree with him or not, that’s a more generous argument than this conversation usually gets, and it’s the actual thesis of the interview.

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    Why The Band Survived It

    The strongest section is Tankian on how two people this far apart stayed in the same band for the whole thing.

    He was straightforward that differences make it harder — no pretending otherwise. But he pointed to what’s on the other side of the ledger: plenty of things they agree on, thirty years of building something together, a shared Armenian identity and culture, and the fact that Dolmayan isn’t just his drummer but his brother-in-law.

    That last part is the crux. Their children are cousins. They see each other at family gatherings. There’s no version of this where either man simply stops taking the other’s calls — the relationship was never optional.

    And Tankian made the point that he’s hardly unusual in this. Enormous numbers of people have a brother-in-law who votes differently, and it doesn’t stop them loving each other. His view is that opinions change, times change, and what you’ve built together is heavier than what you disagree about.

    For anyone who followed the 2022 clip of the two of them playing “Aerials” with a street band at Dolmayan’s 50th birthday in Mexico, that’s not a new position. Whatever was being said publicly at the time, the two of them were on a street in San José del Cabo playing a song together.

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    On Artists And Politics Generally

    Tankian was also asked about the broader question of whether musicians should be voicing political opinions at all, given how hostile that territory has become.

    His answer was a flat rejection of the premise. His position is that artists are people, and so are plumbers, electricians, journalists and politicians — and that nobody’s occupation should determine what they’re permitted to say. In his words: “Everyone should be able to speak the moral truth.”

    It’s worth noting that principle cuts in every direction, including toward his own drummer. Dolmayan said in 2023 that speaking publicly had cost him a very large number of fans — by his own estimate, hundreds of thousands — and kept doing it anyway.

    Asked whether he’s an optimist or a pessimist about the state of the world, Tankian described himself as an optimist by temperament, someone who genuinely wakes up in a good mood. But he was bleak on the substance, particularly on climate — pointing to the world approaching the one-and-a-half degree warming threshold, and saying he feels for his children, who are still young.

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    Where The Band Actually Is

    Setting all of it aside, the practical position is the healthiest System Of A Down have looked in years.

    They’ve confirmed a 2026 European stadium run with Queens Of The Stone Age and the reunited Acid Bath, they’re headlining Sick New World, and a 2027 Australian and New Zealand tour with Faith No More is confirmed. Shavo Odadjian has a role in the new season of Dexter: Resurrection, and Tankian recently released a cover of David Bowie’s “I’m Afraid Of Americans” with Brendan Angelides.

    New music remains the open question, and it’s never really been about politics — it’s about the long-running creative tension between Tankian and Daron Malakian over touring and songwriting that nearly cost the band its singer in 2017, and that Dolmayan has been publicly blunt about.

    The Take

    Whatever you think of either man’s politics — and this audience will contain plenty of people on both sides — the thing worth taking from this interview isn’t about politics at all.

    Two people who disagreed about something they both cared about enormously, in public, at high volume, with a fanbase picking sides underneath them, chose not to blow up a thirty-year band or a family over it. They kept turning up to the same gigs and the same dinner tables.

    That’s rarer than it should be, and it has nothing to do with which of them you agree with.

    TL;DR

    • What happened: in a new Rolling Stone Italy interview, Serj Tankian suggested John Dolmayan’s political position may have softened
    • His exact framing: he declined to speak for Dolmayan, but said the past tense is now correct and that he believes his bandmate grew tired of it, as many others have
    • Dolmayan’s response: none. He has not commented
    • The overlooked detail: Tankian said that before any of this, Dolmayan voted for Barack Obama — and that he isn’t sure Dolmayan has ever said so publicly
    • The relationship: the two are brothers-in-law; Dolmayan is married to Diana Dolmayan, sister of Tankian’s wife Angela. Their children are cousins
    • Why the band held: Tankian cited thirty years of work together, shared Armenian heritage and culture, family ties, and the many things they do agree on
    • On artists and politics: Tankian rejected the idea that anyone’s job should limit what they’re allowed to say
    • Band status: a 2026 European stadium tour with Queens Of The Stone Age and Acid Bath, a Sick New World headline slot, and a confirmed 2027 Australia/New Zealand run with Faith No More

    FAQ

    What did Serj Tankian say about John Dolmayan?

    Speaking to Rolling Stone Italy, Tankian declined to characterise his bandmate’s current views, but said the past tense is the correct one when describing Dolmayan’s political support and that he believes Dolmayan grew tired of it, as many others did. Dolmayan has not responded publicly.

    Are Serj Tankian and John Dolmayan related?

    Yes. They’re brothers-in-law. Dolmayan is married to Diana Dolmayan, the sister of Tankian’s wife Angela, and their children are cousins.

    Did the political disagreement nearly break up System Of A Down?

    By Tankian’s account, no. He acknowledged the differences made things harder but pointed to thirty years of shared work, a shared Armenian heritage and family ties as outweighing them. The band’s long-running creative tensions over touring and new music are a separate matter entirely.

    What did Serj Tankian say about musicians discussing politics?

    He rejected the idea that anyone’s profession should limit what they can say, arguing that artists, plumbers, electricians, journalists and politicians are all equally people and everyone should be free to speak what they believe is true.

    Is System Of A Down touring in 2026 and 2027?

    Yes. They have a 2026 European stadium run with Queens Of The Stone Age and Acid Bath, a Sick New World headline slot, and a confirmed 2027 Australian and New Zealand tour with Faith No More. No new album has been announced.

    Thirty years, one band, two families and a disagreement they never let win. Whatever side you land on, is there anyone in your life you’ve had to work that out with? Let us know in the comments.

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  • MEGADETH – tour dates 2027 with exciting special guests

    An era is coming to an end. Nearly a year after the release of their final album, Megadeth (2026), the legendary thrash metal band of the same name will embark on one last world tour to say goodbye to the stage. Joining bandleader Dave Mustaine are longtime bandmates Teemu Mäntysaari (guitar), James LoMenzo (bass), and Dirk Verbeuren (drums), a lineup widely recognized for its outstanding… Continue Reading →
  • Party.San Metal Open Air 2026 – Preview

    Event:Party.San 2025
    Date:6th – 8th August
    Location:Schlotheim – Flugplatz Obermehler


    Happy Birthday, Party.San! Thirty years of metal madness and the festival is still going strong. Once again, we have the pleasure of covering one of Germany’s finest festivals when it comes to death and black metal. It’s already the fifth time we’ve had the honor of reporting from Party.San, and honestly, it’s something we never take for granted.

    Before we dive into the bands you absolutely shouldn’t miss this year, I’d like to get one thing off my chest. Criticism is completely fair. Everyone has different tastes, and no festival lineup will ever satisfy every single visitor. But the way some so-called “fans” have reacted to this year’s bookings over the last few months has honestly been embarrassing. It almost feels like a tradition at this point. As soon as a new band gets announced, people rush to social media just to complain.

    Do I personally love every single booking? Of course not. But there has never been a festival that only booked bands I wanted to see, and there probably never will be. Party.San also isn’t Wacken or Hellfest. It’s a small to medium-sized festival with a much more focused vision. When you’re booking death, black and thrash metal, the pool of available bands isn’t endless. Add rising touring costs and increasing performance fees, and suddenly things become a lot more complicated. Maybe some people should keep that in mind before posting unfiltered nonsense online.

    Now, let’s get to the important part. Which bands should you definitely check out at Party.San 2026?


    Thursday, 8th of August


    200 Stab Wounds
    Tentstage
    (2.45 – 3.30 p.m.)

    Things become much more modern with 200 Stab Wounds. Together with bands like Frozen Soul and Sanguisugabogg, they’ve become one of the leading names of the new generation of death metal. Endless riffs meet raw violence, creating exactly the kind of sound that has made them one of the hottest bands in the scene. 200? That’s a lot of stab wounds.

    Misery Index
    Mainstage
    (4.45 – 5.30 p.m.)

    Misery Index have become one of Party.San’s biggest fan favorites over the years. After their last appearance in 2022, the band behind Jason Netherton is finally back. Armed with their latest single “Feral Future”, you can get the first taste of their new material. For me, they are still one of the very best deathgrind bands on the planet. Definitely one of Thursday’s highlights.

    Sadistic Intent
    Tentstage
    (5.45 – 6.30 p.m.)

    Last but certainly not least, don’t miss Sadistic Intent. They are honestly one of the best death metal bands I have ever seen live. Despite being active since 1987, the band has never released a full-length album. Surprisingly, that has never hurt their reputation. Numerous EPs and split releases have earned Sadistic Intent true cult status within the underground. Since they don’t tour very often anymore, every opportunity to see them live is a special one. Don’t let this chance slip away.

    Pungent Stench
    Mainstage
    (6.50 – 7.35 p.m.)

    Pungent Stench probably don’t need much of an introduction. They remain one of the most influential yet often overlooked bands in death metal history. Whether it’s material from “For God Your Soul… For Me Your Flesh” or “Been Caught Buttering”, there’s more than enough classic songs to get the crowd going in front of the main stage. At the same time, Schirenc Plays Pungent Stench will be playing one of its final shows before the project comes to an end. So there really are no excuses. Go catch them live one last time.

    Begging for Incest
    Tentstage
    (7.30 – 8.05 p.m.)

    If you’re looking for absolute chaos right from the start, make sure to catch Begging for Incest. The German brutal death metal outfit will most likely leave nothing but dust behind on the tent stage. Expect massive circle pits, nonstop violence and enough blast beats to wake up the entire festival grounds. If regular death metal isn’t heavy enough for you, this is your band. Stay brutal.

    Evoken
    Tentstage
    (8.35 – 9.10 p.m.)

    Things won’t get any less heavy with Evoken, but they will become a lot slower. Their funeral doom is atmospheric, crushing and almost suffocating at times. It will also be the band’s first appearance at Party.San, making this one of Thursday’s most special performances. Their 2025 album “Mendacium” was another outstanding release, and hearing some of those songs live should be an unforgettable experience. Slow, deep and hard.


    Friday, 9th of August


    Wormed
    Mainstage
    (1.45 – 2.30 p.m.)

    What does it actually feel like to get swallowed by a black hole? Honestly, I have no idea. But if I had to imagine it, it would probably sound a lot like Wormed. The Spaniards combine brutal death metal with lyrical themes centered around space, black holes and cosmic horror. Brutal death metal… but in space. Their technical precision is almost machine-like, yet they never forget to hit with pure brutality. In space no one can hear you scream, but at Party.San you definitely should make some noise for Wormed.

    Crawl
    Tentstage
    (5.20 – 5.55 p.m.)

    If you love the filthy, crust-infused sound of Entombed or Carnage, then Crawl should be at the very top of your list on Friday. The Swedes embody everything that made the classic HM-2 sound so legendary. Expect chainsaw guitars, massive grooves and enough energy to wake up even the most hungover festival visitors. Total destruction is guaranteed.

    Wolves in the Throne Room
    Main Stage
    (6.50 – 7.35 p.m.)

    It’s honestly hard to believe that after thirty years of Party.San, Wolves in the Throne Room will finally make their festival debut. They have become one of the most important names in atmospheric black metal and helped shape the genre over the years. Back in the day, some people didn’t quite know what to make of their sound. Today, they’ve earned absolute cult status. Songs like “I Will Lay Down My Bones Among the Rocks and Roots” have influenced an entire generation of bands. Without a doubt, one of the biggest highlights of the entire weekend.


    Saturday, 8th of August


    Internal Bleeding
    Tent Stage
    (1.45 – 2.30 p.m.)

    If maximum violence and crushing slam riffs are what you’re after, Internal Bleeding have you covered. Fans wearing camouflage shorts and shirts with completely unreadable band logos will probably gather in front of the stage long before the first note is played. If bands like Dying Fetus or Suffocation are your thing, you already know that Internal Bleeding is simply mandatory.

    Hexvessel
    Mainstage
    (2.45 – 3.30 p.m.)

    Without a doubt, Hexvessel are one of the most fascinating bands on this year’s lineup. Somewhere between psychedelic rock, folk and black metal, the Finns have created a sound that is entirely their own. These are exactly the kinds of bookings I love seeing at Party.San. Surrounded by countless extreme metal bands, Hexvessel feel like the festival’s hidden gem. If you’re looking for something a little different, don’t miss them.

    Celeste
    Main Stage
    (7.30 – 8.05 p.m.)

    French black metal has long proven that it can stand shoulder to shoulder with the legendary Norwegian scene. A perfect example is Celeste from Lyon. Known for their intense and atmospheric live performances, the band will finally make their Party.San debut on the tent stage. Hopefully, their signature light show can be fully appreciated despite the early time slot, because it’s an essential part of the entire experience.

    Wolfbrigade
    Mainstage
    (9.00 – 10.00 p.m.)

    It’s pretty rare for a band to reach cult status across several different subcultures at the same time. Whether you ask punk fans, crust kids or metalheads, they’ll probably all give you the same answer: Wolfbrigade are one of the greatest bands around. Originally known as Wolfpack, they’ve been a staple on battle jackets for decades. Fast songs, razor-sharp guitar work and an unmistakable punk attitude define everything they do. That’s exactly why they’re respected by so many different scenes. Out of the entire lineup, this is probably the band I’m looking forward to the most. An absolute must-see.


    Party.San Metal Open Air 2026 will take place from August 6th to August 8th in Schlotheim, Germany. Three days packed with outstanding death, black and thrash metal. See you in the pit!

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  • MEGADETH Reveals 2027 European Dates With BLACK LABEL SOCIETY & TESTAMENT

    Megadeth has announced the next leg of its ongoing farewell tour, revealing a 24-date European arena run titled Breakout: Hibernation Of The Nations. The trek begins on March 9, 2027, in Belfast and wraps up on April 13 in Lisbon, Portugal.

    Joining Megadeth throughout the tour will be Black Label Society and Testament, giving European fans one of the strongest metal lineups scheduled for 2027.

    The tour arrives after the success of Megadeth‘s seventeenth and final studio album, which became the band’s first release to reach No. 1 on the Billboard 200. The upcoming dates will take the band through 12 of the 22 international markets where the album landed in the Top 5, as part of a farewell tour that spans multiple continents and several years.

    Discussing the band’s final run on the road, Dave Mustaine said: “This isn’t about saying goodbye. It’s about celebrating everything we’ve built together over the last four decades. Every city has its own story, every crowd has given us unforgettable memories, and we want to come back to celebrate that with the fans who made it all possible.”

    Rather than treating the farewell as a single tour, Megadeth has planned an extended run designed to give fans around the world multiple opportunities to see the band one last time. The shows will feature material covering every era of the group’s career, including classic songs, fan favorites and selections from the band’s chart-topping final album.

    Ticket sales will begin with the Megadeth Cyber Army presale on Tuesday, August 4, at 10:00 a.m. local time. The artist presale follows on Wednesday, August 5, also at 10:00 a.m. local time, while general ticket sales open on Friday, August 7, at 10:00 a.m. local time.

    Fans who join the Megadeth Cyber Army will receive early access to tickets and VIP packages. Available experiences include meet-and-greets, exclusive merchandise, early venue entry, collectible memorabilia and other fan-focused extras. For more information visit here.

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  • MEGADETH – Breakout: Hibernation Of The Nations 2027 Tour Dates UK & Europe

    MEGADETH Breakout: Hibernation Of The Nations 2027 tour dates:

    Testament and Black Label Society support

    March 09 – Belfast, UK @ The O2 Belfast
    March 11 – London, UK @ OVO Arena Wembley
    March 12 – Nottingham, UK @Motorpoint Arena
    March 13 – Manchester, UK @ Co-op Live
    March 15 – Cardiff, UK @ Utilita Arena
    March 16 – Glasgow, UK @ OVO Hydro
    March 18 – Birmingham, UK @ BP Pulse Live
    March 19 – Leeds, UK @ First Direct Bank Arena
    March 21 – Paris, France @ Zénith Paris – La Villette
    March 23 – Brussels, Belgium @ Forest National
    March 24 – Amsterdam, Netherlands @ AFAS Live
    March 25 – Düsseldorf, Germany @ Mitsubishi Electric Halle
    March 27 – Copenhagen, Denmark @ K.B. Hallen
    March 28 – Oslo, Norway @ Oslo Spektrum
    March 30 – Hamburg, Germany @ Sporthalle
    April 01 – Berlin, Germany @ Velodrom
    April 02 – Kraków, Poland @ Tauron Arena
    April 04 – Munich, Germany @ Zenith
    April 05 – Bern, Switzerland @ Festhalle Bern
    April 06 – Milan, Italy @ Unipol Forum
    April 08 – Lyon, France @ Halle Tony Garnier
    April 10 – Barcelona, Spain @ Olimpic Arena
    April 12 – Madrid, Spain @ Movistar Arena
    April 13 – Lisbon, Portugal @ Sagres Campo Pequeno

    Presale starts Tuesday, August 4th @ 10am Local Time: https://www.megadeth.com/pages/cyber-army

    General On Sale: Friday, August 7th @ 10am Local Time.

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  • Visa Issues Force HYPOCRISY To Cancel North American Tour

    Hypocrisy has canceled its planned North American run this month after encountering visa problems that prevented the Swedish death metal veterans from entering the country.

    The Mass Hallucination tour was set to begin on August 10 in Toronto before wrapping up on August 23 in Los Angeles. Along with headlining dates, Hypocrisy was also scheduled to appear as support for Dimmu Borgir on selected shows.

    The band addressed the cancellation in a statement shared on social media on Monday (August 3):

    “Due to visa issues beyond our control, we won’t be able to make it to the North American tour.

    “We’re devastated, and truly sorry — we did everything we could.

    “We’re not giving up. We’ll keep working to make this right and get to you as soon as we can!

    “Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support!

    “If you have questions about refunds, please contact your original ticket seller.”

    Hypocrisy‘s latest studio album, Worship, was recorded and mixed at Peter Tägtgren’s Abyss Studio AB in Sweden before being mastered by Svante Forsbäck at Chartmakers Audio Mastering. The album artwork, created by Blake Armstrong, reflects the long-running theme of humanity’s connection with extraterrestrial life.

    Founded more than 30 years ago by Peter TägtgrenHypocrisy has released 12 studio albums while becoming one of Sweden’s defining death metal acts. After initially recording the band’s earliest demos on his own, Tägtgren secured a deal with Nuclear Blast and assembled a full lineup to bring the project to the stage.

    Across its career, Hypocrisy has developed a recognizable sound built on crushing riffs, melodic hooks, aggressive drumming and atmospheric songwriting. The band’s catalog includes releases such as PenetraliaThe Fourth DimensionAbductedVirus and Worship.

    Alongside Peter Tägtgren, the current lineup features bassist Mikael Hedlund, who joined the band in 1991. Guitarist Thomas Elofsson has performed as a session member since 2013, while session drummer Henrik Axelsson came aboard in 2022.

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  • Lollapalooza Fans Passed A Bag Of Urine Through The Crowd, And Artists Are Now Publicly Begging People To Just Use The Bathroom

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    Video from Lollapalooza in Chicago’s Grant Park has gone viral showing festival-goers passing a cardboard box containing a plastic bag of what appears to be urine through the crowd. Footage was captured by multiple Instagram accounts, with the plastic bag visibly hanging over the side of the box as it moved hand to hand.

    The response online has been overwhelmingly negative, with fans calling it a serious breach of concert etiquette and a health risk to everyone it passed. Lollapalooza 2026 ran July 30 to August 2 and was headlined by Olivia Dean, Charli XCX, Tate McRae, Lorde, The xx and Smashing Pumpkins, with Turnstile, Yungblud, Wet Leg, Geese and The Story So Far also on the bill. It is the second festival bathroom incident to go viral in just over a week.

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    We are going to talk about this like adults, which is more than can be said for the people involved.

    What Actually Happened

    Over the weekend at Lollapalooza in Grant Park, someone in the crowd decided they were not giving up their spot.

    Rather than fight their way out to a portable toilet and fight their way back — the thing every festival-goer in history has grudgingly accepted as the cost of a good position — they relieved themselves into a plastic bag.

    Then the bag went into a cardboard box. And the box went into the crowd.

    Multiple Instagram accounts filmed it moving hand to hand, and in the footage the bag is visibly slumping over the side of the box. There is nothing between that bag and the people carrying it except a bit of cardboard and optimism.

    The videos hit six figures of engagement within hours.

    The Response Was Not Divided

    There’s usually a contrarian take on these things. Not this time.

    The overwhelming consensus across both posts was that this is unacceptable, and the arguments broke into a few clear groups.

    The pragmatists pointed out the obvious solution that has worked for the entire history of live music: have a mate hold your spot. That’s it. That’s the whole system. It has never failed.

    The veterans — and there were a lot of them — pointed out that people have been going to festivals for decades and somehow managed to walk to a toilet. Several noted they’ve been to dozens of festivals over twenty-plus years without this ever occurring to them as an option.

    The exasperated ones just wanted to know what has changed. Is it a bathroom access problem? Is it the crowd density making it genuinely impossible to get out? Or is it simply that some people have decided the rules don’t apply to them?

    And a fair few said the quiet part out loud: watching that clip cured any fear of missing out they had about not being there.

    That last one should worry the festival more than the rest of it combined.

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    This Is Not An Isolated Incident, And That’s The Real Story

    Here’s what most of the coverage is missing. This isn’t a one-off weird moment. It’s the latest entry in a genuinely alarming run.

    Eight days ago we covered a Devilskin show in Dunedin, New Zealand where a fan defecated on the floor mid-set, triggering a chain reaction of vomiting, forcing the band to stop the show for cleanup, and leaving a wide empty circle in the pit that nobody would go near for the rest of the night. Police identified the man responsible. No charges were filed.

    That piece noted something worth repeating now: a comparable incident happened at a Turnstile show in Santa Cruz back in 2021.

    Turnstile played Lollapalooza this weekend.

    Lollapalooza itself had a viral urination incident in 2024 as well, when a fan relieved herself in the pit and was reportedly ejected.

    And it’s got to the point where artists are addressing it from the stage and in the press. Noah Kahan has publicly gone after his own audience over people defecating at his shows — joking that Congress needs to step in and mandate diapers, which is the kind of joke you only make when the underlying thing has genuinely happened more than once. Olivia Rodrigo has called fans out over hygiene at her shows too.

    When multiple headline artists across completely different genres are independently begging their audiences to use a toilet, that’s not a series of coincidences. That’s a shift in how some people are behaving in crowds.

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    What The Pit Figured Out A Long Time Ago

    And here’s where it gets interesting for anyone reading this site.

    Metal and hardcore crowds are, by any objective measure, the most physically chaotic audiences in music. Circle pits. Walls of death. Crowd surfing. Stage diving. People come out of those rooms bruised and happy.

    And yet this stuff almost never happens there.

    The reason isn’t that metal fans are better people. It’s that heavy music crowds developed an actual functioning social code, enforced by the crowd itself, decades ago. If somebody goes down, you pick them up. That rule is universal, non-negotiable, and every single person in the room knows it.

    Corey Taylor articulated it publicly in the most serious possible context. Days after the Astroworld crowd surge killed nine people in 2021, he addressed it from the stage at Welcome To Rockville. His point was that the thing which makes this genre and this audience a family is that they look out for one another — and that anyone who’s ever been in a pit knows that when someone goes down, you get them straight back up.

    That’s not sentiment. That’s an operating procedure, and it’s why a room full of people slamming into each other at speed is statistically safer than a static pop crowd of the same size.

    We’ve written up the unwritten rules of pit etiquette before — consent matters, respect people who aren’t participating, pick up anyone who falls, know your limits. Nobody hands those rules out at the door. They get transmitted person to person, gig after gig, and newcomers absorb them within about one song.

    Notice what’s missing from that list: any rule about bodily fluids. It’s never needed one. It’s covered by the general principle, which is that the person next to you is a human being and the room belongs to everybody.

    Somewhere in the migration of festival culture from a subculture with its own norms to a mass-market event where a hundred thousand people show up for a photograph, that transmission chain broke. Turn up alone, know nobody, treat the crowd as scenery rather than as people, and there’s nothing left to stop you doing whatever’s most convenient.

    A bag of urine going hand to hand through a crowd is just what that looks like at the extreme end.

    The Practical Bit

    If you’re going to a festival this summer — and our 2026 metal festival guide has plenty of options — the solution here really is as simple as everybody in those comment sections said.

    Go with people. Hold each other’s spots. Take turns. Hydrate, but be sensible about timing. And accept that if you want to be in the front third of a stadium-sized crowd, you’re going to lose your place occasionally, because that is the deal and always has been.

    Festivals could help too. Grant Park had eight stages and a crowd in the tens of thousands. If getting to a toilet from the middle of a headline set genuinely takes forty minutes, that’s a design problem, not just an etiquette one — and some of that commentary asking whether this is a logistics failure is a fair question worth someone at Lollapalooza actually answering.

    But none of that makes the bag okay.

    Go find a toilet. Everybody else manages it.

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    TL;DR

    • What happened: video from Lollapalooza 2026 shows a cardboard box containing a plastic bag of apparent urine being passed hand to hand through the crowd
    • Where: Grant Park, Chicago, during the festival’s July 30 – August 2 run
    • The reaction: near-unanimous condemnation online, with most commenters pointing out the obvious alternative of having a friend hold your spot
    • The pattern: it follows a Devilskin show in New Zealand eight days earlier where a fan defecated in the pit, a 2024 Lollapalooza urination incident, and public complaints from Noah Kahan and Olivia Rodrigo about hygiene at their own shows
    • The metal connection: Turnstile played Lollapalooza this weekend; a comparable incident happened at one of their own shows in Santa Cruz in 2021
    • Why it’s rare at heavy shows: metal and hardcore crowds run on a self-enforced code — pick people up, respect non-participants, look after the person next to you — that Corey Taylor publicly articulated after Astroworld
    • Lollapalooza 2026 headliners: Olivia Dean, Charli XCX, Tate McRae, Lorde, The xx and Smashing Pumpkins, with Turnstile, Yungblud, Wet Leg, Geese and The Story So Far also playing

    FAQ

    What happened with the bag of urine at Lollapalooza?

    Video circulating from Lollapalooza 2026 in Chicago shows a cardboard box holding a plastic bag of what appears to be urine being passed through the crowd, apparently so an attendee could avoid losing their spot. The bag is visible hanging over the side of the box in the footage.

    When was Lollapalooza 2026 and who played?

    The festival ran July 30 to August 2 at Grant Park in Chicago. Headliners included Olivia Dean, Charli XCX, Tate McRae, Lorde, The xx and Smashing Pumpkins, with Turnstile, Yungblud, Wet Leg, Geese and The Story So Far also on the bill.

    Has this happened at other concerts?

    Repeatedly. A fan defecated in the pit at a Devilskin show in Dunedin, New Zealand in late July 2026, forcing the band to pause. A similar incident occurred at a Turnstile show in Santa Cruz in 2021, and Lollapalooza had a viral urination incident in 2024. Noah Kahan and Olivia Rodrigo have both publicly called out fans over hygiene at their shows.

    Why does this seem to happen less at metal shows?

    Heavy music crowds operate on a long-established, self-enforced code — pick up anyone who falls, respect people not participating, look after the person beside you. Corey Taylor described that principle publicly after the Astroworld tragedy in 2021, and it’s transmitted from fan to fan rather than posted on a sign.

    What should you actually do if you need the bathroom at a festival?

    Go with friends and take turns holding each other’s spots. It’s the solution nearly every commenter landed on, it costs you one song, and it has worked for the entire history of live music.

    Metal crowds throw each other around for two hours and still manage to pick up strangers off the floor. What’s the worst crowd behaviour you’ve ever witnessed at a show? Let us know in the comments.

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